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by Space
Mon May 06, 2013 3:02 pm
Forum: Other comments and questions
Topic: New genetics study!
Replies: 7
Views: 2601

New genetics study!

Looks like I'm gonna be a part of this new genetics study! Check it: "Hi Rob, Thank you for completing the AP test. Your results: Piano Tones: 47.75 (out of a possible 48 ) Sine Wave: 40.5 (out of a possible 42) Total Score: 88.25 (out of a possible 90) Your results placed you in group AP-1 (the hig...
by Space
Mon May 06, 2013 3:01 am
Forum: Other comments and questions
Topic: UCSF Study
Replies: 17
Views: 4600

Man, sorry bout all of these long-winded posts but I forgot about another thing.

Chris, you mentioned ETCv7 and the random number generator. Is this to incorporate randomly selected 'out-of-tune' pitches?

Rob
by Space
Mon May 06, 2013 1:49 am
Forum: Other comments and questions
Topic: UCSF Study
Replies: 17
Views: 4600

Oh and as far as testing for categorical perception using out of tune notes, Prolobe is supposed to have advanced levels (called 'ear manglers) that involved judgements of quarters and thirds of pitches, but apparently they aren't operable. Oh, and Clint hasn't been heard from in ages. The site was ...
by Space
Mon May 06, 2013 1:44 am
Forum: Other comments and questions
Topic: UCSF Study
Replies: 17
Views: 4600

"then a sudden switchover at the division between categories." Not to say that varying degrees of accuracy with this denote a lack of categorical perception per se but I think with most AP possessors there wouldn't be a 'sudden' switchover. Probably more of a grey area where considerable mistakes ar...
by Space
Sun May 05, 2013 1:51 am
Forum: Other comments and questions
Topic: UCSF Study
Replies: 17
Views: 4600

Also, what difference does it make to test for categorical perception first? The point of the MRI/PET scans is to see what happens when I identify pitches 'as is', the way I do it now. I'm not trying to 'make sure' that I am identifying pitches like a 'natural' before testing. The point is to ID pit...
by Space
Sat May 04, 2013 7:07 pm
Forum: Other comments and questions
Topic: UCSF Study
Replies: 17
Views: 4600

How does one go about that? Test for categorical perception, that is?
by Space
Fri May 03, 2013 4:13 am
Forum: Your observations
Topic: APA possible improvements
Replies: 5
Views: 3057

I truly believe, actually, that learning to ID pitches as scale degrees against a background keycenter (like what I do with groove builder) helps immensely with this. I identify random singles, doubles, and triples within a key as well as alone. Even if the notes are still totally random, if in a ke...
by Space
Fri May 03, 2013 2:04 am
Forum: Other comments and questions
Topic: UCSF Study
Replies: 17
Views: 4600

Well I can certainly get behind any decent, sound, research myself, whatever the outcome. However, the issue of AP seems to come with a lot of strange baggage and it always seems like there is a 'belief' about the nature of AP that is driving the researchers. Much like Rush and Nering's studies wher...
by Space
Thu May 02, 2013 7:17 pm
Forum: Other comments and questions
Topic: UCSF Study
Replies: 17
Views: 4600

UCSF Study

Ok, so I was reading about the UCSF study here: http://perfectpitch.ucsf.edu/study/ and thinking about one possible fatal flaw. The researchers only did genetic testing on AP possessors and their AP possessing family members. Basically, it's like taking a group of people that can juggle and comparin...
by Space
Thu May 02, 2013 6:53 pm
Forum: Other comments and questions
Topic: The endless debate!
Replies: 2
Views: 2800

The endless debate!

Man, I am SO sick of arguing with these youtube people about the nature/nurture debate. This one dude is so vehemently against the notion that one can 'learn' any degree of AP whatsoever. He claims that it is not only purely genetic but that the UCSF study 'proves' this beyond a shadow of a doubt an...
by Space
Thu May 02, 2013 5:04 am
Forum: Your observations
Topic: APA possible improvements
Replies: 5
Views: 3057

I've considered that exact protocol myself. Also, as far as ETC as a whole is concerned, there needs to be a traditional note naming game built in, like Pitch Player. I think it is good to move from APA to traditional note naming random notes across all octaves. I've also just recently begun working...
by Space
Wed May 01, 2013 5:33 pm
Forum: Your observations
Topic: Condensing
Replies: 8
Views: 2706

Oops, sorry man. I didn't realize this wasn't open to responses.
by Space
Wed May 01, 2013 3:26 pm
Forum: Your observations
Topic: Condensing
Replies: 8
Views: 2706

Yeah, I went ahead and tried it out again to make sure I really could do this. It seems that you reach a certain level of competency and the skill that is required to achieve all levels of once pitch can instantly be transferred to any of the other pitches. This skill in my experience is as follows:...
by Space
Wed May 01, 2013 3:12 pm
Forum: Your observations
Topic: Condensing
Replies: 8
Views: 2706

I think there is a certain 'threshold' where one gets to a point where short-term memory for pitch is improved to a point where one can breeze through all levels of APA one at a time using the same basic cognitive skill and never really learn AP. I do believe, however, that doing random pitches (whe...
by Space
Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:57 pm
Forum: Your thoughts about music
Topic: categorical perception of scale degrees
Replies: 14
Views: 8951

Yeah, I'd say essentially, my scale degree recognition of all 12 degrees is instant, especially in the context of what Bruce Arnold would call 'one note'. I can ID 2 and 3 note chords this way as well (cuz I've practiced doing random 2 and 3 note chords against a 12-bar blues background. Still, I wi...